tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post5940057669746906373..comments2023-11-06T02:38:32.169-06:00Comments on The Warmaster of Fun: Weekend LeagueAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11932657815610384115noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-57221704480233699692016-03-03T17:14:19.620-06:002016-03-03T17:14:19.620-06:00What do you have to do to get wyverns in the list?...What do you have to do to get wyverns in the list? You can't take those as csm heavy support, just the rapiers?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762058731308109939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-11497519286984491772016-03-03T14:29:49.554-06:002016-03-03T14:29:49.554-06:00Ha! I did that a couple of weeks back. "Why ...Ha! I did that a couple of weeks back. "Why is a box of marines $150?!?!?"Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932657815610384115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-29425646928489856872016-03-03T13:51:30.914-06:002016-03-03T13:51:30.914-06:00Correction. Kataphron models are $20 a piece. For ...Correction. Kataphron models are $20 a piece. For some reason GW thought I lived in Australia... No thanks!Threllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870997885236351103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-57918572908252937122016-03-03T13:48:27.270-06:002016-03-03T13:48:27.270-06:00I was playing around with some R&H lists and c...I was playing around with some R&H lists and came up with something I kind of liked. I think this is legal but I may have missed something:<br />Renegade Command Squad (command net vox, bloody-handed reaver)<br />Renegade infantry veterans x 10 (grenadier squad, chimera w/ h-flamer)<br />Renegade infantry veterans x 10 (grenadier squad, chimera w/ h-flamer)<br />Renegade infantry veterans x 10 (grenadier squad, chimera w/ h-flamer)<br />Renegade infantry veterans x 10 (grenadier squad, chimera w/ h-flamer)<br />Rapier Laser Destroyer x 3 (militia training, flak armour)<br />Rapier Laser Destroyer x 3 (militia training, flak armour)<br />Field Artillery Battery x 4 (heavy mortars, militia training)<br />998<br />For less than 1,000 points you get 40 guys with AP3 rapid-fire guns, 6 S9 AP1 twin-linked ordnance (BS3), and 4 large blast mortars. The list is a bit fragile (as renegades are want to be) but it can deal with MEQs, high armor, and blobs fairly effectively. The command squad can sit back by the artillery and help them not to break rank if they roll poorly for their leadership since the artillery battery is pretty screwed if they ever break formation. I'd probably just throw the arch-demagogue in one of the chimeras with the veterans tbh.Threllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870997885236351103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-11232541526750417812016-03-03T13:42:15.044-06:002016-03-03T13:42:15.044-06:00I don't think Ogryn's would look very good...I don't think Ogryn's would look very good. It would have to be something with treads. I did see a good conversion using Kataphron's but even still they cost $38 per model... So three would be almost $120 (and that's not considering how much it costs if you don't have a pile of lascannons laying around). The one where he put the cannon's side-by-side looks pretty good. http://i.imgur.com/fJz98sQ.jpgThrellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870997885236351103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-80751513212589607802016-03-03T12:57:56.377-06:002016-03-03T12:57:56.377-06:00My buddies are nice and I just use Icarus las cann...My buddies are nice and I just use Icarus las cannons as counts as. A cool conversion would be gluing the las cannons onto ogryn backs though?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762058731308109939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-21431299417013112472016-03-03T11:08:57.950-06:002016-03-03T11:08:57.950-06:00I use standard guard kits mixed with zombies, chao...I use standard guard kits mixed with zombies, chaos spawn, and green stuff. It works well, fits my Nurgle theme, and is much cheaper than forgeworld. I have a whole blob squad, drop pod, and rapiers that I need to photograph, but my FLGS has been out of dull coat...<br /><br />If you are just wanting to bring rapiers there is an option in IA:13 for regular chaos marines to bring them as a heavy support option.<br /><br />If you had a pile of spare lascannons you could probably convert up some rapiers very easily using the kataphron battle servitors kit.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932657815610384115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-72971579257803432982016-03-03T10:49:37.765-06:002016-03-03T10:49:37.765-06:00Veterans are just so dang expensive at 10 points a...Veterans are just so dang expensive at 10 points a piece even before upgrades. Although suicide deep strike with special weapons might not be the worst idea. I just wish GW didn't shut down all the re-casters. I've always wanted to start a R&H list but the thing I want most are the rapier laser destroyer batteries and I can't justify spending that much on FW for weak little things. The rest I could just fill out with Guard kits.Threllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870997885236351103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-48995483074365911812016-03-03T10:44:42.762-06:002016-03-03T10:44:42.762-06:00Hmmm those deep striking veterans seem cheap along...Hmmm those deep striking veterans seem cheap along with a barebones CCS... maybe do those in a 2nd CAD then go to town with rapier laser destroyers and a wyvern or 2...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02283380932176056668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-23212070530874598582016-03-03T08:34:32.901-06:002016-03-03T08:34:32.901-06:00This is the problem with old FW rules that never g...This is the problem with old FW rules that never get updated... They've removed most of the "primary detachment" rules from 40k but not the old FW stuff. Basically if you want anything that says it requires "primary detachment only" then you have to make your Renegades detachment the one with the warlord. If all you want is the Heavy Support options then really all you have to do is get a cheap HQ, two blobs of guardsmen, and whatever heavies to fill out the CAD. Or if you only want one heavy choice you can just take an allied detachment and only have to take one troop.Threllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870997885236351103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-68144395854812166102016-03-03T05:29:54.211-06:002016-03-03T05:29:54.211-06:00Very nice battle report. I like the format too... ...Very nice battle report. I like the format too... :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590636361162907194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-83465081451483314642016-03-02T22:39:14.903-06:002016-03-02T22:39:14.903-06:00I have been trying to get into R&H since my IG...I have been trying to get into R&H since my IG turned AM codex lost allies of convenience. I have IA13, but I get pretty confused about the layouts for taking them as an ally to my CSM. I know there stuff is better as primary but Typhus demands slaves. Theres also an updated Siege of Vraks I hear where the zombies are better but I don't have that.<br /><br />What is the easiest/most effective way to ally in R&H and give myself a wyvern unit and or rapier laser destroyer unit? I need more long range pew pew in my games.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02283380932176056668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-30244828108912794332016-03-02T12:26:39.200-06:002016-03-02T12:26:39.200-06:00I did not get a chance to use the new formations y...I did not get a chance to use the new formations yet (my book is still on its way). Also, being that it was only 1,000 points per side it's hard to fit a well-balanced army into that few of points using the detachment. If I wanted to use the khorne core formation it would have been 640 points just taking the hound squads alone.<br />Since we had a 250 pts per model limit I used:<br />LoC (1x greater)<br />Herald (ML3, disc, grimoire)<br />Herald (ML1, portal)<br />Pink Horrors x 11<br />Pink Horrors x 11<br />Screamers x 6<br />Soul Grinder (Tzeentch, Warp Gaze)<br /><br />Our strategy really changed between games. First game was against my friend's brothers (Tau/IG) and we used most of our warp dice each turn on summoning to get a unit or two out per turn. My Daemons were getting pounded pretty heavily and I probably lost 1k points worth of them but still ended with 580 on the board.<br />Second game was a faceroll against Tau/Nids. There are some varying skill levels at our store and these guys didn't take the best lists. The nid player unfortunately took pretty much all multi-wound models and the force guns on the dreadknights ripped through him like butter.<br />Third game should have been hard but our opponents royally messed up their deployment (deployed first) and put their ravenwing bike squads loaded with plasma talons and 2+ re-rollable jink on one side of the map with the KDK taking over the other 3/4. So we just deployed in a tiny corner furthest from the bikes and started rolling through khorne before the bikes could get there. KDK player was not thinking and he just walked his thirster across the field turn 1 rather than going into swooping until the bikes arrived to help him out. He's lucky my friend failed epically trying to instant death him, but still my LoC (who rolled 4+ FnP) rolled through him. I got Cursed Earth on my screamer herald which made my screamer squad have 2++ re-rollable invul when the grim went off (although it failed 2 of 3 turns). They pretty much couldn't touch us after that.Threllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870997885236351103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-84805304660576634802016-03-02T11:47:57.350-06:002016-03-02T11:47:57.350-06:00When I first started trying out renegades I wasn&#...When I first started trying out renegades I wasn't sure if people would complain, but renegades are really just astra militarum with more options and no orders. The book was a bit pricy, but if your area allows the use of forge world, then it is a game changer for Chaos Marines.<br /><br />What did you run for the daemons? Did you try out any of the new formations?Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932657815610384115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5371395110910067088.post-17020193984297030342016-03-02T10:23:33.468-06:002016-03-02T10:23:33.468-06:00Always good to see some Chaos v Chaos action! I...Always good to see some Chaos v Chaos action! I've wanted to try out Renegades and Heretics stuff but Forgeworld is expensive and some of my friends don't really like playing against it.<br /><br />I did end up winning the tournament at my FLGS this weekend. My friend and I abused the "every army is Allies of Convenience at worst" aspect of the partner tournament so I coupled my Daemons with his list of 2x dreadknights, skybus, and termies w/ librarian. <br />If it weren't for a half-hearted attempt to kill a flyrant that left him on 1 wound after turn 5, we would have tabled every single game. Played against Tau/IG, Nids/Tau, and DA/KDK.Threllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870997885236351103noreply@blogger.com